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		<title>Comment on Seven Brides In Bottles by Beermented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beermented</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 07:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Not for prime time&quot; as Adam says.... Is not acceptable in the beer biz.  You have to have your shit together and hit the ground running.  The competition is steep. Would ya open a restaurant with crappy food and call it gourmet?  Well, I&#039;ve seen plenty of those in Portland..... never mind! ;-}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Not for prime time&#8221; as Adam says&#8230;. Is not acceptable in the beer biz.  You have to have your shit together and hit the ground running.  The competition is steep. Would ya open a restaurant with crappy food and call it gourmet?  Well, I&#8217;ve seen plenty of those in Portland&#8230;.. never mind! ;-}</p>
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		<title>Comment on Seven Brides In Bottles by adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 06:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, fair enough maybe your all right it does have to be said.  I want these guys to succeed but many of their beers aren&#039;t ready for prime time. they&#039;re having very large quality control issues.  I&#039;ve read some reviews that speculated that maybe the beer was not in good condition where it was sampled but I don&#039;t see that often mentioned with other brewery&#039;s products, I think maybe sometimes their beer never was in good condition.  What I&#039;ve noticed with many brewers, I do it also, is that brewers become very fond of their products and get quite hurt when they hear bad things about their beer, that being said if I&#039;m making a bad beer ultimately I want to know.  We had a batch of pale ale ferment funky on us a batch back and it ended up having a lot of diacetyl, people complained and we realized that we took our yeast out too many generations so we fixed the problem.  Seven Brides really needs better equipment first and foremost and they also potentially need the advise of an experienced brewer, I know a lot of brewers started out as homebrewers, so did I, but ultimately pro brewing is different in some fundamental ways from homebrewing. Like I said I really want these guys to be successful but as it stands right now if they don&#039;t make some important changes to their beer brewing processes and recipes they aren&#039;t going to make it.  When I move back to Salem in a couple of years I hope to open a brewery, it would be nice to have some other breweries around, here&#039;s to hoping Seven Brides can work out their problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, fair enough maybe your all right it does have to be said.  I want these guys to succeed but many of their beers aren&#8217;t ready for prime time. they&#8217;re having very large quality control issues.  I&#8217;ve read some reviews that speculated that maybe the beer was not in good condition where it was sampled but I don&#8217;t see that often mentioned with other brewery&#8217;s products, I think maybe sometimes their beer never was in good condition.  What I&#8217;ve noticed with many brewers, I do it also, is that brewers become very fond of their products and get quite hurt when they hear bad things about their beer, that being said if I&#8217;m making a bad beer ultimately I want to know.  We had a batch of pale ale ferment funky on us a batch back and it ended up having a lot of diacetyl, people complained and we realized that we took our yeast out too many generations so we fixed the problem.  Seven Brides really needs better equipment first and foremost and they also potentially need the advise of an experienced brewer, I know a lot of brewers started out as homebrewers, so did I, but ultimately pro brewing is different in some fundamental ways from homebrewing. Like I said I really want these guys to be successful but as it stands right now if they don&#8217;t make some important changes to their beer brewing processes and recipes they aren&#8217;t going to make it.  When I move back to Salem in a couple of years I hope to open a brewery, it would be nice to have some other breweries around, here&#8217;s to hoping Seven Brides can work out their problems.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fire Mountain Steam Powered by Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried the OPA last night and thought it was really good.  Malty up front with a dry finish, lots of cascade hops.  The stout is my favorite though.  It&#039;s big but drinkable, a little alcohol warmth at the end.  Delicious!!!  I can&#039;t wait to see this stuff in more of the local pubs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried the OPA last night and thought it was really good.  Malty up front with a dry finish, lots of cascade hops.  The stout is my favorite though.  It&#8217;s big but drinkable, a little alcohol warmth at the end.  Delicious!!!  I can&#8217;t wait to see this stuff in more of the local pubs.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Seven Brides In Bottles by jbx</title>
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		<dc:creator>jbx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>. . .  we all want these guys to succeed. For many reasons.

As difficult as it is, particularly in written words, I believe constructive criticism is important.

Matt, a lad that sells pastured chicken eggs at the Salem Farmer&#039;s market, has a sign that reads something to the effect . . .

  If you like I product, tell your friends,
  if there a problem with the product, tell me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>. . .  we all want these guys to succeed. For many reasons.</p>
<p>As difficult as it is, particularly in written words, I believe constructive criticism is important.</p>
<p>Matt, a lad that sells pastured chicken eggs at the Salem Farmer&#8217;s market, has a sign that reads something to the effect . . .</p>
<p>  If you like I product, tell your friends,<br />
  if there a problem with the product, tell me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Seven Brides In Bottles by Capital Taps</title>
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		<dc:creator>Capital Taps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 04:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s tough, because you want to support them...but man, Oatmeal Ellie when I had it from bottle a couple of weeks ago was not good.  I had a sixer of black butte porter, and then opened one of those as a control.  Ellie&#039;s not goodness was worrisome, and the comparison really made it clear.  First off, it tasted reduced - had a burnt rubber and barnyard thing going.  It also tasted a touch bretty, and I wondered if the yeast wasn&#039;t under control and/or they had microbial issues.  Anyway, it just didn&#039;t taste clean.  I wanted to wait and write something good.  The commercial brewing ecosystem here isn&#039;t big and diverse - and I want to boost it, not bust it.  So, yeah, here&#039;s to hopes that they can improve the product!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s tough, because you want to support them&#8230;but man, Oatmeal Ellie when I had it from bottle a couple of weeks ago was not good.  I had a sixer of black butte porter, and then opened one of those as a control.  Ellie&#8217;s not goodness was worrisome, and the comparison really made it clear.  First off, it tasted reduced &#8211; had a burnt rubber and barnyard thing going.  It also tasted a touch bretty, and I wondered if the yeast wasn&#8217;t under control and/or they had microbial issues.  Anyway, it just didn&#8217;t taste clean.  I wanted to wait and write something good.  The commercial brewing ecosystem here isn&#8217;t big and diverse &#8211; and I want to boost it, not bust it.  So, yeah, here&#8217;s to hopes that they can improve the product!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Seven Brides In Bottles by Beermented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beermented</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 03:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Adam

Dude! If it&#039;s wrong, it&#039;s wrong.... Don&#039;t apologize. I think Drunkel sucked ass... there I said it.... because to me, it did. ;-]

Call a Spade a Spade. ;-} 

If no one tells them their product sucks, they&#039;ll keep making it the same way.... and that will be the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Adam</p>
<p>Dude! If it&#8217;s wrong, it&#8217;s wrong&#8230;. Don&#8217;t apologize. I think Drunkel sucked ass&#8230; there I said it&#8230;. because to me, it did. ;-]</p>
<p>Call a Spade a Spade. ;-} </p>
<p>If no one tells them their product sucks, they&#8217;ll keep making it the same way&#8230;. and that will be the end.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Seven Brides In Bottles by Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may have come off a little harsh last night, I should have said that I really do like these guys and I do like many of the beers they make.  Back in September Jeff even let me try one of their beers that hadn&#039;t released yet, I believe it was Drunkel, which I must say was very good.  Really the only thing I would change is either make all Belgian style beers or vary the yeast strain for the beer they are making.  I&#039;ve had the Ember before and I recall that being good as well.  The only thing I&#039;m concerned about is them competing in a bigger marketplace.  Really they could tame the esters of their yeast strain if they had better equipment, right now they have no temperature control for most of their fermenters. I wish I could pop by and help them out but I&#039;m all the way up here in Washington, brewing on the east side of the state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may have come off a little harsh last night, I should have said that I really do like these guys and I do like many of the beers they make.  Back in September Jeff even let me try one of their beers that hadn&#8217;t released yet, I believe it was Drunkel, which I must say was very good.  Really the only thing I would change is either make all Belgian style beers or vary the yeast strain for the beer they are making.  I&#8217;ve had the Ember before and I recall that being good as well.  The only thing I&#8217;m concerned about is them competing in a bigger marketplace.  Really they could tame the esters of their yeast strain if they had better equipment, right now they have no temperature control for most of their fermenters. I wish I could pop by and help them out but I&#8217;m all the way up here in Washington, brewing on the east side of the state.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Seven Brides In Bottles by Jared</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 07:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Beermented

I never said Seven Brides was making stellar beer, nor that they were doing anything unusual. I did say however that I&#039;ve grown fond of three of their standards, and I stand by this. Also, they have made a Belgian beer. Just last week I had their Belgian Pale on tap at f/stop. I&#039;ll be honost and say I wasn&#039;t the biggest fan of it, but Belgian pales have never really been my thing

@Adam

Your right, their Pils doesn&#039;t taste like a Pils, but I still like it :) Also their Oatmeal is far from their best beer. In fact I&#039;d rank it fairly low on their list. I&#039;d recomend their Black Cat over it any day. The guys at Seven Brides seem to be very open to talking about their beers, especially Jeff, Uf you head over to their brewery. Heck they&#039;ll probably even pour you some samples just for taking the time to visit.</description>
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<p>I never said Seven Brides was making stellar beer, nor that they were doing anything unusual. I did say however that I&#8217;ve grown fond of three of their standards, and I stand by this. Also, they have made a Belgian beer. Just last week I had their Belgian Pale on tap at f/stop. I&#8217;ll be honost and say I wasn&#8217;t the biggest fan of it, but Belgian pales have never really been my thing</p>
<p>@Adam</p>
<p>Your right, their Pils doesn&#8217;t taste like a Pils, but I still like it <img src='http://www.theweeklybrew.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Also their Oatmeal is far from their best beer. In fact I&#8217;d rank it fairly low on their list. I&#8217;d recomend their Black Cat over it any day. The guys at Seven Brides seem to be very open to talking about their beers, especially Jeff, Uf you head over to their brewery. Heck they&#8217;ll probably even pour you some samples just for taking the time to visit.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Seven Brides In Bottles by beermented</title>
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		<dc:creator>beermented</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 05:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe they should be making Belgian beers with that Belgian yeast? Uh, just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe they should be making Belgian beers with that Belgian yeast? Uh, just a thought.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Seven Brides In Bottles by Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have really high hopes for the Seven Brides guys, beings that they brew in the town I grew up in but they still have a lot of work to do from what I can tell from drinking their beer. From what I can tell it seems like they are using a Belgian yeast strain in all of their beers, while this works in some of their beers it doesn&#039;t work in them all.  Sorry guys but I had the Oatmeal Stout last night and it wasn&#039;t good at all, the pale ale I liked and I still have two more beers to try (the amber and the Pils) but as memory would serve me I recall the Pilsner not tasting anything like a Pilsner, it was good but tasted more like a Witbier. Seven Brides if you are reading this blog know that I support you whole heartedly but please try other commercial examples and work on reformulating some of your recipes. If you want some constructive criticism and maybe some help with recipe formulation let me know. Good luck and keep on brewing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have really high hopes for the Seven Brides guys, beings that they brew in the town I grew up in but they still have a lot of work to do from what I can tell from drinking their beer. From what I can tell it seems like they are using a Belgian yeast strain in all of their beers, while this works in some of their beers it doesn&#8217;t work in them all.  Sorry guys but I had the Oatmeal Stout last night and it wasn&#8217;t good at all, the pale ale I liked and I still have two more beers to try (the amber and the Pils) but as memory would serve me I recall the Pilsner not tasting anything like a Pilsner, it was good but tasted more like a Witbier. Seven Brides if you are reading this blog know that I support you whole heartedly but please try other commercial examples and work on reformulating some of your recipes. If you want some constructive criticism and maybe some help with recipe formulation let me know. Good luck and keep on brewing.</p>
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